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. congresswoman carolyn mccarthy's husband was among those killed, and her son was among those wounded. after that attack in 1993, carolyn mccarthy ran for congress on a gun control platform, and she won that seat in congress. today in response to what happened in connecticut, carolyn mccarthy said "these shootings are becoming all too common, and it's too easy for dangerous people to get the weapons that help them perform mass executions like today's. leaders in washington from both parties and groups like the nra all say that now is not the time to talk about how gun safety laws can save lives in america. i agree. now is not the time to talk about gun laws. the time for that conversation was long before all those kids in connecticut died today." carolyn mccarthy's mention of the national rifle association, the nra is what everybody is talking about when they talk about the need for leadership regardless of the political consequences on this issue. when the president today said we are going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of
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, 100 people die? we cannot wait any more. >> do your congress member carolyn mccarthy lost her husband 19 years ago and the long island rail road massacre. her son was gravely wounded. she's become a leading advocate for gun control as pro-gun politicians and lobbyists fall silent. there is a seismic shift that could lead to gun control legislation. we will ask her. then we look at the fight to save social security as negotiations of the so-called fiscal cliff intensified. >> i do believe the opportunity is there, the parameters of the deal are clear, the path to a compromise is clear. and he hopes the republicans will meet him on that path and do something that would be very good for the american people, for the middle class, and our economy. >> we will speak with arizona congressmember are raul grijalva on his opposition to president obama's plan to cut more from social security than the military. in an exclusive interview with native american activist leonard peltier from prison. >> there would not allow me to put up a defense -- they would not allow me to put up a defense. they man
in new york. congresswoman carolyn mccarthy's husband was among those killed and her son was among the wouned. after the attack, she ran for congress on a gun control platform and won the seat in congress. today in response to what happened in connecticut, she said, these hootings are becoming all too common and it's too easy tore dangerous people to get the weapons that help them perform mass executions like today's. leaders in washington from both parties and groups like the nra all say now is not the time to auction about how gun safety laws save lives in america, i agree, now is not the time to talk good gun laws the, the time was long before all those kids in connecticut died today. carolyn mccarthy's mention of the nra is what everyone is talking about when people talk about the need for leadership regardless of the political consequences on this issue. when the president said we have to come together to take meaningful action regardsless of the politics, he was talking about the nra as a lobby. and it's true, they have so dominated their field of policy, instead of having th
. and congresswoman carolyn mccarthy reacts to the president's statement. >>> social security is officially on the table in fiscal cliff negotiations. david cay johnston tells me if there is any way that makes any sense. >>> and senator bernie sanders on how progressives intend to fight. plus, bob shrum and joan walsh on plan b. >>> and a real scare in syria turns into a real happy ending. tonight we'll tell you how nbc's richard engel escaped from his kidnappers. >> i'm very happy that we're here this morning. >> thanks for watching. it may be a rare moment in gun history, but the nation is focused on gun control following the massacre in connecticut. the national rifle association finally broke its silence on the newtown shooting. a statement released today by the organization said, in part, the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the language is similar to president obama's call for meaningful action, but contribution from the nra remains to be seen. but several republican politicians are already headed in the direction of change.
carolyn mccarthy who entered politics after her husband was killed in a shooting on a suburban commuter train. larry johnson the president of the national association of school safety and law enforcement officials. and jamd baldwin, baltimore county police chief. first we go for an immediate update to my msnbc colleague michelle franzen. michelle, thank you for staying with us tonight. >> reporter: well, hi, chris. we're here in the newtown area of connecticut just nearby a couple of miles from sandy hook elementary where the tragic shooting took place earlier today. at this hour hundreds of residents are gathering at a nearby catholic church for a vigil, holding a prayer for those who o'have lost their lives today, those youngest lives, anywhere between kindar garten and fourth grade where those students were shot today. they're holding a prayer vigil and trying to comfort the families that were told lost their loved ones in this town. it's a small new england town in this area. a very rural area in the central part of connecticut here. and the school, certainly k through 4 that we men
were wounded, including dennis mccarthy's son, kelly. carolyn mccarthy buried her husband, dennis, held her family close through the grieving, and then decided to run for congress with one issue in mind, gun control. carolyn mccarthy was elected to congress in 1996 and has been in the house of representatives most consistent supporter of gun control since she first took her oath of office. joining me now is new york congresswoman carolyn mccarthy. also joining me msnbc's chris jansing, who has been here in newtown, connecticut, covering the story since the day of the shooting. congresswoman mccarthy, this kind of incident i know, and i've heard you say on other shows, takes you back to that experience, getting the call about what happened on the long island railroad. tell us what it's like and how that was actually able to drive you to what has become your new career and this cause. >> going back all those years ago, it was actually when my son -- he had been in the hospital icu. they didn't expect him to live for quite a few months, but it was during rehab when he was learning how to s
they are, with these high-capacity magazines. carolyn mccarthy, when you hear this and the way the issue is framed what is your reaction? >> to be honest with you, i'm happy that you had him on, because america should see what we're up against and the lies that they take to the american people, and unfortunately, an awful lot of them believe that. what we're trying to do is save lives. what we're doing after this shooting, and to be very honest with you, you're going to be hearing from my colleague, you know, what happened in aurora, and what's happened in the last several years. and the shootings get worse and worse and worse. and so that we need to do something. and i do believe, because the country cannot go through what they just saw these last several days. i believe the country will be on our side. i believe that we'll be able to get something done to make sure that we can protect certainly our children but the american people. >> ron barber, i came on air on cnn maybe two years ago, just after the incident in which you were wounded and gabrielle giffords nearly lost her life and o
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experience with the issue. carolyn mccarthy. ron barber. i'm still kind of shaking after my last interview, as i have been after several interviews with people who represent gun rights. it's the glibness of the argument. it's the callousness of the way they continue to justify the freedom of people who continue to use assault rifles. that's what they are, with these high-capacity magazines. carolyn mccarthy, when you hear this and the way the issue is framed what is your reaction? >> to be honest with you, i'm happy that you had him on, because america should see what we're up against and the lies that they take to the american people, and unfortunately, an awful lot of them believe that. what we're trying to do is save lives. what we're doing after this shooting, and to be very honest with you, you're going to be hearing from my colleague, you know, what happened in aurora, and what's happened in the last several years. and the shootings get worse and worse and worse. and so that we need to do something. and i do believe, because the country cannot go through what they just saw these last
. but new york congresswoman carolyn mccarthy whose husband died and son was injured when a shooter opened fire on a long island train in 1993 said the connecticut shooting may be what forces president obama and congress to finally address the problem. >> let's face it, we need to have the president as the bully pulpit on trying to get something done. this time what i saw was different that politicians that usually don't talk about it were talking about it. so, there is a difference this time around. there is a difference maybe the pendulum is turning and the country is ready to get serious about this issue. >> jay carney said friday it is the time to express sympathy for victims' families, not the time to engage in a policy debate. but i spoke with congresswoman mccarthy and she said she called up the white house and said, what are you talking about? this is something we should have been discussing for years. brianna keilar, cnn, the white house. [ heart beating, monitor beeping ] woman: what do you mean, homeowners insurance doesn't cover floods? [ heart rate increases ] man: a few inche
giffords two years ago. category woman carolyn mccarthy, who lost her husband to gun violence, will try again to ban high-capacity ammunition clips. >> high-capacity magazines is something i'm definitely going to be reintroduced in the new congress. i happen to think that just by cutting that amount of bullets that are available can save an awful lot of lives. >> reporter: at the blue ridge arsenal in virginia, some gun owners also agree that the massacre in connecticut is a tipping point. >> we're talking about children. definitely. this is the-- a time where we're going to have to get really strict on guns. >> i get it. guns can be unsafe in the hand of people that either have mental disorders or people that haven't been properly trained. >> reporter: getting to a middle ground will be very difficult, despite the horror of yesterday's shootings. the politics of gun regulation are a third rail that most lawmakers around here shun, and that makes any kind of meaningful action, as the president put it, all but impossible, particularly at a time when he has so much else on his agenda. jim
, police killed a gunman inside a hospital where three people were hurt. but new york congresswoman carolyn mccarthy, whose husband died and son was injured when a shooter opened fire on a long island train in 1993, says the connecticut shooting may be what forces president obama and congress to finally address the problem. >> let's face it, we need to have the president as the bully pulpit on trying to get something done. this time what i saw was different, that politicians that usually don't talk about it were talking about it. so there is a difference this time around. there is a difference, maybe the pendulum is turning and the country is ready to get serious about this issue. >>reporter: white house spokesman jay carney said friday it's the time to express sympathy for victims' families, not the time to engage in a policy debate. but i spoke with congresswoman mccarthy and she said she called up the white house and said "what are you talking about? this is something that we should have been discussing for years." >>reporter: brianna keilar, cnn, the white house. >> another storm system
a tipping point. here is democratic congresswoman carolyn mccarthy whose husband was killed in a mass shooting. >> this time is different all the time is different because there is so much anger. when you talk to people, there is anger behind their voices. why are we allowing this to continue to happen? >> democrats in both the house and the senate say they are introducing legislation designed to ban high capacity clips. those that hold more than 10 bhults at once and that they are looking for republicans to sign on to their efforts,. >> shepard: shep shannon, as always there are differences of opinion about whether gun control will help. >> gun rights advocates say there are a number of state and federal gun laws in effect. and in many cases they are not being effectively enforced. troubled individuals intent on harms other will find a way around any new measures this is what republican cathy mcmorris had to say? >> we need to it look at what drives a crazy person to do these kind of actions and make sure that we're enforcing the laws that are currently on the books. >> though not ma
to look into the gun violence in this country. >> now, new york congresswoman carolyn mccarthy is determined to make sure the president stands behind his call for meaningful change on gun control. t i'm still "stubbed" u. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh what a relief it is! ♪ [ male announcer ] to learn more about the cold truth and save $1 visit alka-seltzer on facebook. >>> since the massacre at virginia tech in 2007, there have been 19 of what the fbi classifies as mass shootings in the united states. what there hasn't been is what president obama is now calling for, meaningful change in the gun laws. joining me now is new york congresswoman carolyn mccarthy. congresswoman mccarthy, thank you so much. i must say when i li
advocate for gun control carolyn mccarthy of new york whose husband was killed and bad will he injured in a mass shooting on the long island rail road she struck a more assertive tone i agree this is not the time to talk about gun control. it should have been talked about years ago when we started having these mass shootings. it should have been done when gabby giffords was shot. she described a conversation she had prior to election day with white house chief of staff jack lieu in which she vowed to revive the issue. i said jack i know the president is going through an election i am telling you after the election i am coming out full force. i was just giving the white house a heads off the gloves are off on my side. i was going to do everything i possibly could if that meant embarrassing everybody mccarthy said that's what i would do. >> in his weekly saturday address president obama mostly repeated his sament of yesterday. he kept his emotions in check. he correctly announced the name of the town in connecticut and added another city to the litany of them he had in friday's remarks.
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are going to take you live to the capitol as representatives nancy pelosi, carolyn mccarthy, and others talk about the gun violence in connecticut last week and the reintroduction of the assault weapons ban. live coverage here on c-span. >> any americans want to see the high capacity assault weapon magazine be banned. the assault weapons off our streets. they don't want to see the weapons in the war on our streets and our communities. and of course no single piece of legislation is going to solve everything. we need to look at things holistically. i spent my life as a nurse before i came here and you always have to look at things holistically. join us because this time it is different. i want to say that most of you know that i have been fighting this issue for over 18 years. and each time it gets harder and harder. for many of my colleagues, because we go home and we face these constituents, we go to their funerals, and then a couple months no one's talking to them. i continue talking to them. especially around the holidays. because they don't go away. we go on with our lives and we do go o
bring it all back. i thought it was great, i said we have to get carolyn mccarthy because her reason to be in public life, to take on the voter, to deal with the public was this issue of the horror that hit your husband. >> and it was. and, you know, it's not funny, but i mean yesterday in my office we sat down to plan what we were going to do for the next term, and i said, listen, i came here in to congress to reduce gun violence, and i said i want to make sure that we go full forward. we have to do something about it. you know, the president's words meant a lot to me today because his tone was different. we have to take this head on and i know that the white house had said earlier that this was not a time to talk about gun violence, and you know what? they're right. it should have been years ago. so hopefully we wouldn't have had to go through this. there are things we can do to reduce gun violence. there are things we can do to hopefully cut down the amount of killings, but my heart goes out to the families and for those that lost their loved ones. i mean, here we have the holiday
and carolyn mccarthy could not get passed congressional republicans. the justice department didn't get very far either. attorney general eric holder created a task force on gun control but most of its proposals were shelved as the election and the fast and the furious inquiry heated up. this time, it seems as though, however, there might be a bit more cooperation. today, speaker john boehner said he could be willing to consider vice president biden's recommendations on gun control. >> we join the president in mourning the victims of that horrible tragedy in connecticut. he's appoint vice president biden to lead a commission and when the vice president's recommendations come forward we'll certainly take them into consideration. john fuglesang now john boehner may say he'll consider but he did give himself a good amount of wiggle room. do you hear that right now? that's the friend of the nra revving up their spin machine. fox news reported the gun lobby has remained silent to allow for a proper period of mourning but that soo
celebrex. for a body in motn. >>> next hour, congresswoman carolyn mccarthy and diane degette will hold a news conference to call on congress to pass a ban on high capacity ammunition clips. senator dianne feinstein says the first day of the new congress she will introduce the assault weapons ban. and senator joe lieberman is getting more support for the idea of creating a special commission to explore solutions in the wake of this sandy hook school shooting. let me bring in shara toplets who has been writing about this. they want to ban high capacity magazines but we heard this before, frankly, degette introduced this bill in 1998. how much support is it likely to get? >> this is a tough one for congress to pass. representative carolyn mccarthy who has been affected shootings, her husband and son were killed on a long island railroad before she ran for congress, she's always been a big advocate of banning the high capacity magazines. and in the wake of the shooting of gabrielle giffords, she also submitted legislation that would do the same thing. and, frankly, it didn't really go anyw
, all of us must work with president obama, senator feinstein, congresswoman carolyn mccarthy, congressman bobby scott and all of our colleagues to be brave and to be bold enough to pass measures that ensure gun safety and the comprehensive solutions to ensure that our children have a future in a peaceful nation. madam speaker, we can and we must do all of these things and more so that we can prevent tragedies like this from ever happening again. on behalf of all of my constituents, let me express once again our thoughts and our prayers for all knows impacted by this tragedy in newtown and the entire state of connecticut. thank you, madam speaker, and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields. the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from ohio for five minutes. >> thank you, madam speaker. madam speaker it is with great sorrow that i rise to address the senseless murders that took place in newtown, connecticut, this past friday. ms. fudge: mass shootings are always difficult to bear. this is one is exceptionally disturbing due to the loss
that the kind of grass roots energy that you need to change law will happen. but you know, carolyn mccarthy, member of congress whose husband was killed and whose son was grievously wounded in a shooting incident on the long island railroad she's trying to get legislation through that would limit the size of magazines to 10 rounds instead of 30 rounds which apparently was used in this shooting. she can't get any interest in that in the republican controlled house. not that the democrats are that eager, either, but the politicians are standing in the way, all in the pocket of the nra. >> susan. >> well, there have been -- i was just look at the coalition to stop gun violence, supposedly 65 mass shootings in the past couple years. one every three months is the number they're putting out. the interesting thing here, though, you're right, congress rarely will do anything about it, because it divides them so badly, even after a big shooting, like columbine, they really couldn't move anything. only minor things can get through. what i think might happen this time, i honestly think there will be a
of congresswoman carolyn mccarthy. she's brought to this debate her own loss in the senseless tragedy, her own experience as a healthcare professional, and her own even handedness to help make that change with legislation to help ban assault weapons. thank you, carolyn, for your leadership and for the inspiration you are to all of us. today, i'm pleased to announce that congressman mike thompson will head a new task force focused on reducing gun violence. he's a vietnam vet, a wounded vietnam vet, i might add, -- he will be working with the administration and to do so in a bipartisan way. these are the steps, some steps that we all want to take that members have expressed that we -- but we must go further. restoring the assault weapon ban, strengthening the background system to make sure that dangerous weapons don't fall in the wrong hands. i met with the brady group and members of families who have experienced tragedies, addressing the issue of mental health to keep those guns out of those hands, and april dressing the issue of -- addressing the issue of violence. bobby cox has taken the lead
. is there momentum for real gun control this time around? >> well, there is momentum. congresswoman carolyn mccarthy and i from new york introduced this bill earlier this session after the terrible shootings in aurora which are right outside my congressional district. we tried to push for this bill. it's only a step of what we need to do, but to be honest, you're never going to stop some seriously deranged person from trying to shoot again. but what you can do is stop them from having these magazines that will kill 26 people in a ten-minute period. and so we're urging -- the bill's ready. we signed up 16 people in one hour this morning. we think that speaker boehner could bring it to the floor this week and show the country that we're really making some positive first steps to keeping these serious, serious weapons out of the hands of people who are criminals or who are seriously mentally ill. >> so you think that it's possible to bring this to the floor of the house this week? >> we could do it. it's been introduced. it's ripe. we have a number of co-sponsors. then the first of the year we're going
colleague, congresswoman carolyn mccarthy urged support from republicans today. here it is. >> and i'm asking my republican friends to work with us. it shouldn't be a democrat or a republican issue. it's all of us as americans who are mourning the death in newtown. and we don't want to see anymore of these shootings again. >> so they always hide behind the second amendment. they're fabulous at doing that. but the second amendment does not give you the right to bear any kind of arm. and technology has changed. and, of course, the design has changed, the proficiency of the manufacturing has changed. why will no republican step forward and admit that? >> well, because of the fear of the nra leadership, which is fanatic, which lies to gun to regulate guns in any way is a prelude to taking all your guns away. luckily, the power of the nra was shown to be a paper tiger in the last election. i think that knowledge is going to have to be broadcast and assimilated that you can take on the nra and live to tell about it. you know, no right is absolute. we have the first amendment right to freed
not need any of this. >> no doubt. congresswoman, thank you for your time tonight. carolyn mccarthy with us here on "the ed show." and that is "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "the rachel maddow" show starts right now. >> thanks. there is a lot to get to this hour, including news about potential gun law reforms and the continuing reaction to the newtown, connecticut, school massacre there. is some surprising news out of michigan on that issue today that we're going to be getting to. there is news about who is going to be in the united states senate in this next congress. we found out yesterday who is being tapped to replace senator jim demint, who is leaving the senate. we also found out yesterday who might replace john kerry if he leaves the senate to be secretary of state. we found out today who is the odds-on favorite to replace long-time hawaii senator daniel inouye, who died yesterday. we've got all that news ahead. >>> but we begin tonight with something that is an important story in its own terms. but for those of us at msnbc and nbc news, it is also an incredibly emotional thing. and
gun-control measures she plans to introduce. after that, represented diana decant and carolyn mccarthy touched by a booster in gun laws. >> our first experience was to come in a different way from other families out there. probably will never happen in history. we went in and took a picture he was behind the desk and not that we didn't get to move into the white house because he so unexpectedly left their daughter's then son-in-law to pack all of their clothes and belongings. it literally took seven or eight days. we had to go back to our little house in alexandria, virginia in suburbia, you know, the neighborhoods around the base euchre service. we been living there. his dad was vice president. that night, his mom was cooking dinner. [laughter] utterly we were cooking dinner and she looks over and says jerry, something is wrong here. [laughter] aegis became president of the united states and i'm still cooking. >> senator daniel nla died at the age of 88. in world war ii matter of honor recipients served 50 years in the senate. thursday, his body will lie in the capitol rotunda, where
a gunman inside a hospital where three people were hurt. but new york congresswoman, carolyn mccarthy, whose husband died and son was injured when a shooter opened fire on a long island train in 1993, says the connecticut shooting may be what forces president obama and congress, to finally address the problem. >> let's face it. we need to have the president as the bully pulpit. on trying to get something done. this time what i saw was different, that politicians that usually don't talk about it, were talking about it. so there is a difference this time around. there is a difference maybe the pendulum is turning and the country is ready to get serious about this issue. >> white house spokesman jay carney said friday, it's the time to express sympathy for victims' families. not the time to engage in a policy debate. but i spoke with congresswoman mccarthy and she said she called up the white house and said, what are you talking about? this is something that we should have been discussing for years. brianna keilar, cnn, the white house. >>> there's a lot happening here in newtown this af
congresswoman carolyn mccarthy whose husband died and son was injured when a shooter open fired on a long island train in 1993 says the connecticut shooting may be what forces president obama and congress to finally address the problem. >> let's face it, we need to have the president as the bully pull lit on trying to get something done. this time, which i saw was different, that politicians that usually don't talk about it were talking about it. so there is a difference this time around there is a difference, maybe the pendulum is turning and the country is ready to get serious about this issue. >> white house spokesman jay carney said now is the time to have sympathy for families. making it clear he doesn't think it's time to engage in a policy debate. but talking to congresswoman mccarthy today, she said when she heard that, she said she was upset and called up the white house and said what are you talking about? this is something we should have been talking about years ago. >> and brianna, i understand with' ear also getting new word about the president and his decision, as far as the next s
giffords was shot in the head, carolyn mccarthy introduced a bill to ban high capacity magazines. as co-sponsors. not a single republican would do so. should the president expect more of the same even after 20 children have been murdered? >> i think he's going to see a complete change in a lot of those republicans. >> really? >> i do. you know, the nra obviously has been powerful in the past. the admission today they would like to work with people about some things, and we don't know what they're going to bring out and what they're going to put forward, but obviously this changes the dynamic significantly. after things like this, we obviously turn to anger, we obviously try to shift blame, but if i go to the doctor and he says you have cancer, how can i get rid of the cancer, doc, he says take two aspirin. it doesn't get rid of the cancer but it makes you feel better. we need legislation that will accomplish something. there will be talk about gun control. there should be talk about mental health issues, talk about the culture of violence, about parental involvement in children's lives.
gun control advocate, congresswoman carolyn mccarthy, whose husband was killed and son severely injured during the 1993 long island rail road mass shooting, had this to say. >> i came here to congress to reduce gun violence. and i said, i want to make sure that we go full forward. we have to do something about it. >> joining me now, the brain trust. msnbc contributor for "the nation," ari melber, political editor of thegrio.com, perry bacon jr. and michelle franzen is also in newtown, standing by for us as well. we'll check in with you in just a few moments, michelle. do stand by. let's talk about political will in washington, d.c. as it's been brought up several times over the past few hours. congresswoman, shot in the head, nothing happened. aurora, colorado, a lot of talk after that, nothing happened. we've got 20 dead kids in an elementary school. why do we believe that something different is going to happen this time around? >> i don't know that something different is going to happen but i do know that the public is capable of learning and breaking through thabootaboos. i t
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